Reworking Capital Ships: Skills, Modules & Refitting

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As first revealed at EVE Vegas 2015, we are making some major changes to capital ships in EVE in the upcoming EVE: Citadel Expansion and you can expect additional dev blogs as more details become ready to announce.  In this blog I’m going to cover the new Force Auxiliary capital class, our transition plan for current carrier pilots, new capital modules, and some design discussion on combat refitting!

Force Auxiliaries



One of the biggest components of our capital changes this spring is the new class: Force Auxiliaries, which some of our players have taken to calling FAX or FAux. This class represents capital repair logistics in a fully dedicated form. Here’s the beautiful new ships and their preliminary bonuses as of now:

Apostle(6 high slots, 4 mid slots, 7 low slots)


Amarr Carrier Bonus (per skill level):


5% bonus to Remote Capacitor Transmitter and Remote Armor Repairer amount

4% bonus to all armor resistances

5% bonus to maximum capacitor pool


Role Bonus:


Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously

1% bonus to Armored Warfare and Information Warfare Links effectiveness

50% reduction in CPU requirements for Warfare Links

Can fit Triage modules



Minokawa (6 high slots, 7 mid slots, 4 low slots)


Caldari Carrier Bonus (per skill level):


5% bonus to Remote Capacitor Transmitter and Remote Shield Booster amount

4% bonus to all shield resistances

5% bonus to maximum capacitor pool


Role Bonus:


Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously

1% bonus to Siege Warfare and Information Warfare Links effectiveness

50% reduction in CPU requirements for Warfare Links

Can fit Triage modules



Lif (6 high slots, 6 mid slots, 5 low slots)


Minmatar Carrier Bonus (per skill level):


5% bonus to Remote Armor Repairer and Remote Shield Booster cycle time

7.5% bonus to local Shield Booster amount

10% bonus to capacitor booster charge strength


Role Bonus:


Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously

1% bonus to Siege Warfare and Skirmish Warfare Links effectiveness

50% reduction in CPU requirements for Warfare Links

Can fit Triage modules



Ninazu (6 high slots, 5 mid slots, 6 low slots)


Gallente Carrier Bonus (per skill level):


5% bonus to Remote Armor Repairer and Remote Shield Booster cycle time

7.5% bonus to local Armor Repairer amount

10% bonus to capacitor booster charge strength


Role Bonus:


Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously

1% bonus to Armored Warfare and Skirmish Warfare Links effectiveness

50% reduction in CPU requirements for Warfare Links

Can fit Triage modules



All of the Force Auxiliaries will have a 10,000 m³ Fleet Hangar and a 1,000,000 m³ Ship Maintenance Bay.

Some of you may have seen preliminary stats for these ships gleaned from early test server builds. It's important to remember that making predictions from unannounced test server details is always done at your own risk.

In particular we want to reassure wormhole players that the mass values for the Force Auxiliaries on our test servers are designed to be released alongside an increase in the maximum jump mass of the existing capital-capable wormhole connections. This per-ship mass limit increase is also designed to accommodate capitals fitting the new capital armor plates. Wormhole connections that currently allow Dreadnoughts and Carriers to pass through will continue to accommodate Dreadnoughts, Carriers and Force Auxiliaries, and will continue to disallow Supercarriers and Titans.

There will also be corresponding changes to the stats of capital remote repair modules and triage modules at the same time. For instance, don't worry about the loss of the range bonuses on the hulls as the range will be added to the base modules to compensate.

TRIAGE CARRIER TO FORCE AUXILIARY TRANSITION

Force Auxiliaries are going to completely take over the old Triage role from Carriers, leaving Carriers to focus on their new offensive capabilities. As a result, we want to make sure that our transition plan accommodates all Carrier pilots. Here’s how we’re planning to handle it:

February Release

We seeded Light Fighter and Support Fighter skills. You can begin training them immediately in preparation for the expansion!

EVE: Citadel Expansion


Any carrier with a triage module fitted (T1 or T2) in station, contract or ship maintenance array will be changed to a Force Auxiliary of the same faction.

Any carrier with a triage module fitted (T1 or T2) in space will be changed to a Force Auxiliary of same faction. Its drones and fighters will be moved to its owner’s home station.

Force Auxiliary blue print originals will be available on the market.

You will only require the Fighters skill to use Light, Support and Heavy Fighters.

The Fighter-Bombers skill will be renamed to Heavy Fighters, and give bonuses to heavy fighter squadrons. Heavy Fighter squadrons will only be launch-able by Supercarriers.

The Light Fighter and Support Fighter skills will give bonus to Light Fighters and Support Fighters respectively. More details about the fighter transition plan will come in a later blog.


No More Force Auxiliary Skills

Our original plan was to introduce a new dedicated Force Auxiliary skill. After player feedback we've decided to go another direction. Force Auxiliaries will instead use a renamed Carrier Skill. If you've already purchased a Force Auxiliary skillbook, the purchase price and any skillpoints trained will be refunded.

MODULES

While we’re talking about Force Auxiliaries, we though you might be interested in some of the new modules that we’ll be releasing with the Citadels Expansion:

Capital Ancillary Shield Booster and Armor Repairer

Replicating existing Small, Medium and Large Ancillary Shield Boosters & Armor Repairers. The Shield Boosters will require capital sized Cap Booster charges, while the Capital Ancillary Armor Repairer will still use Nanite Repair Paste. The armor versions of these modules will be limited to one per ship just like their smaller cousins.

Remote Ancillary Shield Booster and Armor Repairer

Limited to one per ship, we're introducing Small, Medium, Large and Capital versions. Like the local versions they require Cap Booster charges or Nanite Repair Paste to operate. These modules should add a new aspect of optimization gameplay to repair ships of all sizes.

Capital Emergency Hull Energizer

When activated, pushes the hull resists to 99% for 20 seconds. However, it burns out after cycling once. This module is a type of Damage Control, so you will have to decide if you want an Emergency Hull Energizer or standard Damage Control. 

Heavy Stasis Grapplers

You can find out more details about these here! Only fitable to battleships and capitals.

Capital Scriptable Armor & Shield Hardeners

Similar to Armor Hardeners and Shield Hardeners, but they can be scripted to provide either very weak protection from all damage types or high protection from a single damage type. These modules will allow capital pilots to react to incoming damage in a more customizable fashion than is possible with Reactive Armor Hardeners.

COMBAT REFITTING

As part of our work on capitals we have put together a capital focus group, comprised of some of EVE’s most experienced capital pilots. They are a great help to us. One of the hottest topics in that discussion group is the proposal we’ve made with the capital rework to restrict refitting in space whenever the pilot has a weapons timer. We are still planning to go forward with that plan and after a long talk on the subject we thought it made sense to include our reasons in this blog rather than just in the focus group.

Let’s talk about why we want to make this change. We feel that it’s essential to the fitting game, and all combat in the game, that you have to make commitment to decisions. These commitments scale depending on their impact (think ammo choice vs ship choice), but ultimately all of EVE is a about meaningful choices and their consequences.

Refitting in space removed an enormous amount of commitment, basically offering all possible fittings to any ship at any time, so long as they have a Capital/Nestor/Depot nearby. The addition of more refitting service options (Depots, Nestors) has brought this issue into sharper relief but the underlying design flaw has been in EVE for many years.

To provide an example of how important it is for competitive games to require some level commitment for certain key choices, imagine the same issue applied to a collectible card game where suddenly it was allowed to swap cards in your deck out for other cards at any time during a match. This would have a hugely negative affect on game-play. Deck construction (fitting design) goes mostly out the window and there’s no need to even bother trying to figure out what deck your opponent is running. Ship fitting serves many of the same design goals that deck construction, equipment choice and talent specs all serve in other games. To make choices truly matter we need some level of commitment and consequences, and as a result we feel we need to slow down refitting in space during competitive situations.

This is not simply about any one specific ship or fitting style. When we mentioned Slowcats at EVE Vegas we did not intend to imply that this change is aimed at that one issue. There are some gameplay issues that can be solved with a narrow scope: by targeting specific ships or modules. On the other hand, some issues represent core design problems that will continue sprouting new problems if we simply treat the symptoms rather than the core cause. We believe that instant combat refitting represents the latter class of issues, a core problem with the meaningful decisions and consequences the game presents its players.

It's not simply about carriers refitting from tank to damage and back, or Macharials swapping autocannons and artillery, or ships fitting warp core stabs mid-combat, or switching racial jammers, or capitals fitting shield, armor and hull tanks to vastly increase their EHP. All of these issues are simply symptoms of the same underlying issue and if we were to deal with each of them individually more related problems would sprout up in their place.

We are not married to any one implementation for enforcing commitment in fitting choices, and we are very open to hearing feedback from the community about how you think this problem should be solved. However we do believe that it must be solved. Our currently proposed solution is that you can’t refit with a weapons timer. Meaning, if you are aggressing a player, or assisting a player ship who is aggressing a player, you can't refit for 60 seconds.

Now, the problem that the capital focus group has raised, and reasonably so, is that combat refitting can add a lot of excitement and strategy to fights, especially for Triage pilots, and they would be very disappointed to lose that game-play. Makes sense. It’s active, it takes sharp thinking to figure out which fit is ideal depending on your situation, and it takes practice. Despite those good reasons, we feel that we can address the amount of mastery and excitement available to Triage pilots without the need for refitting in combat, and that’s exactly what we want to do.

New modules are the first part of our strategy and we listed a few of those above, but we don’t want to stop there. It is important to remember that Force Auxiliaries are new ships and can be tuned specifically for Triage gameplay in both mechanics and stats. We’re exploring a range of options and we’ll continue to work with the focus group as well as blog about any future additions, but ideally we end up in a place where Triage pilots have great ways to express their fitting knowledge before fights, and also plenty of options to flex their tactical mastery during engagements.

 

Thanks for reading, look for more on the Capital rework as we approach EVE: Citadel this spring,

-Team Five-0


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[Lelira Cirim]

Amarr wins best name! \o/

(i is bias)

[Faeron Virenque]

ok, I'm game

Gallente wins most armor shield reps/sec on an armourtanking FAX!
Honourable mention to : Minmatar the same in shield tanking FAX

[Sah Kardis]

Oi! Decisions to be made. Is there any consensus building yet? For example, I own 2 Archons, and I'll probably stick a Triage mod in one to transfer it to a FAX, and keep the other for a boot, but who knows even what will happen to the boot fits. Min/Max philosophy seems to dictate that Amarr/Caldari would be the two I initially look at for my logi pilot.

[Q Sertorius]

Oi! Decisions to be made. Is there any consensus building yet? For example, I own 2 Archons, and I'll probably stick a Triage mod in one to transfer it to a FAX, and keep the other for a boot, but who knows even what will happen to the boot fits. Min/Max philosophy seems to dictate that Amarr/Caldari would be the two I initially look at for my logi pilot.

This seems to be the conventional wisdom.

There really is no difference, as far as anyone can tell, between a current Triage Carrier and a Fleet Auxiliary. So, with that said, the Amarr and Caldari Carriers have always been the best Fleet Triage Carriers. They have the most EHP and the best chance of surviving if they can live through a single Triage cycle.

The Minmatar Carrier was always the best for a suicide or POS repair situation - it straight up repped the most shield. The Minmatar Fleet Auxiliary will continue to hold that spot. The Gallente Fleet Auxiliary will hold that role for armor repair.

Unless I see something different from the coalition, I plan on continuing to encourage folks towards Amarr and Caldari Fleet Auxiliary ships.

The wild card is seeing what the new Carrier bonuses will be... until we know that it won't make sense to decide which way to go on that front.

[Sah Kardis]

The wild card is seeing what the new Carrier bonuses will be... until we know that it won't make sense to decide which way to go on that front.

They did list the preliminary bonuses and slot layout in the dev blog. Seems traditional.

[Q Sertorius]

The wild card is seeing what the new Carrier bonuses will be... until we know that it won't make sense to decide which way to go on that front.

They did list the preliminary bonuses and slot layout in the dev blog. Seems traditional.

The Dev Blog does not list the Carrier bonuses.

[Lelira Cirim]

The FAX is in! SISI copypasta stats and beauty shots.

http://imgur.com/a/zSPYn

(Found via ID voodoo, so not pretending to be near the final stats.)

[Bongalonga]

The FAX is in! SISI copypasta stats and beauty shots.

http://imgur.com/a/zSPYn

(Found via ID voodoo, so not pretending to be near the final stats.)

Nice, the Ninazu looks like an obese Myrm, the rest look like oil rig platforms... Not the most visually appealing.

[Q Sertorius]

I dislike the Gallente one, but I think the other three look great.

[Lelira Cirim]

Nice, the Ninazu looks like an obese Myrm, the rest look like oil rig platforms... Not the most visually appealing.

Not inviting you to ride on my so-fresh Amarr windsurfer. Sick waves brah.
I actually want to see the other side, because if this is the first Amarr capital finished on both sides that will explain why it took so long to design.

Edit: THE SYMMETRY IS SO BYOOTIFUL

[CoZie]

I actually want to see the other side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwkjpzMZVw

[Bongalonga]

I actually want to see the other side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwkjpzMZVw

Nice one, being able to see more than a still shot, they actually look pretty sweet! Look forward to feeling the soothing embrace on the battlefield